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Antares Ascending · Jun 18, 2009, 05:31 AM // 05:31

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People can be jerks. You kinda fit the mold to tho. The guild rules are no swearing. You swear and get pissy about it.

Don't see why its so important to some folks to use whatever language they choose anywhere they choose. Grow up.

btw, you are gonna have problems in a guild if you think you can make up rules that suit you as you go along.

Create your own guild. Do whatever you want cause now you make the rules.

Lishy · Jun 18, 2009, 05:35 AM // 05:35

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

Yet you didn't join that guild with honest intentions. You're there to evaluate them. So who's evaluating you?

What do you mean by that? Naturally, as human beings, don't we evaluate everything around us? If I do things with the guild and enjoy it, obviously I'm honest on that part. But also, if I lie about my feelings on a matter just to see how things would progress, that is considered acting since you go with the flow along with an alter-ego. Yes? As soon as you find out about since a rule, it is only common sense to leave instead of arguing, as nobody forces you to stay. That one and only argument was the act, if you catch the drift.

As for who's evaluating me, like-wise, each and everyone viewing this thread since we're all human beings stating an opinion, be it honesty or acting. Evaluation can be anything, unless you want to emphasize your statement?

@timebandit:
Trolling an alliance in all caps? Showing excitement of getting a prestige skin? I must be pro troll, amrite?

(Datura) · Jun 18, 2009, 05:39 AM // 05:39

Ok, I see where you're coming from and I would have had No problem with what you said btw.

[QUOTE=Kook~NBK~;4694448]Simple Solution: Find out what a particular guild's guidlines / rules are before joining.

This is more like what i was getting at.

p.s. and like Gun said, gratz

Neo Nugget · Jun 18, 2009, 05:43 AM // 05:43

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Originally Posted by fenix

Either turn on the filter, or deal with it. Don't get pissy because you 'play the game in front of children'.

I can't really see kids watching their parents play Guild Wars, and why would they be focusing on the argument in alliance chat? Kids like my brother would be more interested in swords, monsters, fighting, ele's dancing in pre, ect.

I think some people believe that whenever a swear word is typed in game, it is spoken out loud in a very angry, loud voice.

*shrug*

fenix · Jun 18, 2009, 05:46 AM // 05:46

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Originally Posted by Neo Nugget

I can't really see kids watching their parents play Guild Wars, and why would they be focusing on the argument in alliance chat? Kids like my brother would be more interested in swords, monsters, fighting, ele's dancing in pre, ect.

I think some people believe that whenever a swear word is typed in game, it is spoken out loud in a very angry, loud voice.

*shrug*

You've somehow managed to write exactly what I was trying to say.

Everyone should read this post. If you still think swearing is an issue, turn on the filter. If, you don't have children, and are offended by language. Here's a reality check.

You are playing a video game, and are concerned about language. Find a better hobby. TURN ON THE DAMN FILTER ALREADY.

Bob Slydell · Jun 18, 2009, 05:47 AM // 05:47

LOL This is the "most awesomest" post ever. And I don't care if thats not a word. I totally agree with OP. And the fact that whoever kicked you then PM's you in that manner with those words says a lot dosent it hahaha. And I get really pissed off when someone says they have a kid playing the game. Sometimes they will say the child is young, like about 5-7 years old. Wouldn't hurt for them to turn off the chat channels off would it? Or even a put filter on... Well hopefully the people in the alliance continued to rage and then disbanded because of all their over-drama and they are now guildless on their own fault.

Btw, You might wanna hope real good that those "parents with kids" didn't take screens and report you...

I also agree completely with Fenix's posts.

Lishy · Jun 18, 2009, 05:54 AM // 05:54

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Originally Posted by Chrisworld

LOL This is the "most awesomest" post ever. And I don't care if thats not a word. I totally agree with OP. And the fact that whoever kicked you then PM's you in that manner with those words says a lot dosent it hahaha. And I get really pissed off when someone says they have a kid playing the game. Sometimes they will say the child is young, like about 5-7 years old. Wouldn't hurt for them to turn off the chat channels off would it? Or even a put filter on... Well hopefully the people in the alliance continued to rage and then disbanded because of all their over-drama and they are now guildless on their own fault.

Just to clear something up:
It was not the same officer who pmed me after wards that kicked me. That is, unless they share the same name and I wasn't paying attention.

As for the guild's success, personally, I think it's going to go on for a loooooong time.
And to be honest, I know some great people in it as well. What I hope for, is if the guild can improve for the sake of those people though.
Guild leaders, for example, needn't jump to paranoid assumptions of guild hopping just to learn the stygian farm, for example, and should be more clear on guild rules from the start when someone asks about them.
Giving hints on rules simply doesn't cut it.

talon994 · Jun 18, 2009, 05:55 AM // 05:55

I guess this is just a bunch of bad parents who get sensitive *tear* around swear words. You got a tormy shield, you're happy/excited so you earned the right to say ''F*** yeah!''.
If the people in that guild/alliance can't understand that then it's better they go back to their real lives and nag their 12 year old son.

Btw as said above grats on the shield

Gli · Jun 18, 2009, 05:57 AM // 05:57

First you're spazzing out. Then you start lecturing people. Then you turn into a drama queen. What a terrible guild.

Lishy · Jun 18, 2009, 06:00 AM // 06:00

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Originally Posted by Gli

First you're spazzing out over your shield. Then you start lecturing people to see how far you can go out of curiosity. Then you turn into a drama queen to see how the guild would handle it, even though you would normally leave, but wanting to see if the guild was truly worth it. What a douche.

I just wanted to clear some misconceptions since this is srsbsnss and not a big bunch of lulz!

bhavv · Jun 18, 2009, 06:05 AM // 06:05

Whenever I join a guild I never know what their rules are. If I feel like typing in a humorous adult joke, or participating in a fun conversation with any kind of mature humor that doesnt involve chickens crossing roads, then I want to do that. My current guild / alliance is very fun and relaxed, people can say whatever they like and I have not seen anyone get insulted in anyway at all yet because nothing is on a personal level. It is like swearing in Age of Conan is allowed so long as it is not abusive, since it is a mature game, but that game is dead now and has a fee. But as I said at first, when you join a new guild you do not know what their rules are.

There is a clear difference between swearing for either expression of emotion or for a joke, or just to be abusive and nasty to others, yet you can still be the latter without using a single swear word at all.

The term I am describing is called 'context'.

As for the excuse about children, why are your children watching and reading what you type, or why are they playing an online game if you dont want them to hear swear words? If I ever have kids, I already know not to let them have internet access untill they are 16 years old. I wont be having my kids addicted to WoW or Maple Story at age 8 like other irresponsible parents allow. And then, the parents are also paying for their kids subscriptions or in game cash usage, like, where do all these failure parents come from these days? Would you buy crack cocaine and put it in obtainable reach of your kids? I know I wouldnt, and yes, the Internet can become the same thing as crack.

Learn to take responsibility of your kids before using them as an example for no swearing in an online game.

Also dont forget that kids go to school. When I were 10-12 years old, not knowing what the F word meant or what porn or masturbation were would mean that you wouldnt be very successful at making friends. It is not an ideal situation at all, but it is the real world and if you want your kids to be responsible and get on well in life, you need to teach them to grow a backbone. If you think your kids are going to remain innocent little fairies and virgins untill they marry, you are living in loony ga - ga land and have probably been very over sheltered yourself all your life.

Real life says hi, wake up please.

Bob Slydell · Jun 18, 2009, 06:08 AM // 06:08

I really hope to see more posts like this, finding these guilds out there and seeing what ones break under pressure.

Gun Pierson · Jun 18, 2009, 06:18 AM // 06:18

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

What do you mean by that?

I mean that it may be more constructive with a better result if you create your own guild with like minded people. Especially because you wrote in your OP that this has been going on for so long and that you have enough of it.

No need to infiltrate and other silly things like that. And when you'll get another prize like the shield, the guild members will respond with: 'RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOING NICE DUDE!' etc.

Looking at this thread alone, I think there are enough candidates out there which I don't see as a good or a bad thing. I'm an adult who often swears too.

A last thing that comes into this, is a guild's house rules. They always have the last word. In your own guild, you make the house rules.

False Maria · Jun 18, 2009, 06:19 AM // 06:19

If the alliance has rules for no swearing and no caps then those are the rules. They aren't going to change for you, so it's you who is going to have to deal with it or leave.

They don't even need a reason to not want swearing; if they feel like it, they can have a rule that says "No mesmers allowed" and there would be nothing wrong with it; It's not like you have some sort of god-given right to have a mesmer in that guild, or to even be in that guild to begin with. Their guild, their rules.

You want your guild to be different? Then get a different guild.

Arkantos · Jun 18, 2009, 06:22 AM // 06:22

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Originally Posted by fenix

You've somehow managed to write exactly what I was trying to say.

Everyone should read this post. If you still think swearing is an issue, turn on the filter. If, you don't have children, and are offended by language. Here's a reality check.

You are playing a video game, and are concerned about language. Find a better hobby. TURN ON THE DAMN FILTER ALREADY.

You're forgetting that Guild Wars is full of idiots, and common sense does not work with idiots.

And False Maria. Some guilds have stupid rules that you may not agree with, but they aren't going to change for you. Same with real life. There are some very retarded laws in our world, but we have to follow them regardless.

the_jos · Jun 18, 2009, 06:23 AM // 06:23

When you join a guild or alliance with certain rules on chat there is nothing wrong with at least trying to keep them in mind.
Remember, you are not the leader of the guild or the alliance else those rules would not be there. Basically you are a guest and should act like one.
And if the rules are that you don't swear please don't.

It can happen and leadership should place things in context. There is a huge difference between saying 'effing Shiro' and 'effing noob Kain' in AC. I've had some chats on that with various leaders in alliances over the time.
Past experiences tell me that a completely free chat isn't working and a chat that's too restrictive isn't working either. And keeping balance between the two isn't easy.

Before you start about 'spazzing guilds' again, why don't you run your own 30+ member guild for a while in a full alliance. And experience what stuff you have to deal with.
I know what I'm talking about but I get the impression that you don't have the slightest idea....

fenix · Jun 18, 2009, 06:24 AM // 06:24

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

You're forgetting that Guild Wars is full of idiots, and common sense does not work with idiots.

Sadly, this is true. It would be nice if some people weren't so ignorant and stupid.

Arkantos · Jun 18, 2009, 06:25 AM // 06:25

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Originally Posted by fenix

Sadly, this is true. It would be nice if some people weren't so ignorant and stupid.

In this world? Never.

zwei2stein · Jun 18, 2009, 06:27 AM // 06:27

Sometimes guild just want their people to have, ... hmm ... class.

The fact that swear'n'caps happy member gets em pissed off does not mean they are pussies that can't handle swearing. Its just means they do not want whiny, shouty, sweary kids around.

Hell Raiser · Jun 18, 2009, 06:29 AM // 06:29

I agree that people who have their chat filter off but complain about swearing are usually morons, and that swearing is pretty mainstream, but I would have kicked your ass out too. Rules are rules, regardless of whether you think they should be or not. Is it really that difficult to respect a simple request to refrain from using swear words? Besides, if you really liked this guild as much as you seem to, I would assume it would be rather easy to respect such a request. I don't think you were kicked because you swore, I think it was because you made such a big deal over being asked/told not to.

I agree that people should be less sensitive about swearing, but you should also have been more respectful of their rules.